Link to the future of public safety report: https://www.jjay.cuny.edu/future-public-safety

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Thank you for this presentation! Trinity, I use to work at the John Heuss House as a Social Work Supervisor. Amazing how time flies. JJAY 2002 - M.A. - Forensic Psychology.

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Media often is negative about the Bail Reform and the Police Union. sometimes i'm confused with the whole reform

I just joined....who is speaking ????

Matt Katz

thans

@Antonios Matt Katz from Gothamist, WNYC just spoke

thanks

thank you matt, I so agree

thank you Jan

did I miss anything important ????

Well said Matt the need for qualitative data to address the storytelling challenge is critical.

good afternoon everyone.......how is everybody

All, this is being recorded so you can re-watch later.

@Antonios Matt was saying that the link between the rise and crime and bail reform is largely anecdotal and not backed by stats

thanks Sarah

and Matt also noted the "storytelling challenge" of talking about bail reform's upside. How do you write about the guy who DOESN'T spend six months in jail for a crime of which he's ultimately acquitted?

I have a question.......What do you think about bail reform ??? Good, bad, or neither

Thank you for lifting that article Susan.

who is speaking now ?

Antonio that's what we are talking about now

Antonios……please just listen

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Great point by Susan Shah, bail reform is far, far from the only policy lever that affects crime

as a person who lives in the community I do not believe crime has gone up because of the reform. I've see with my own eyes the changes. crime is down especially with the legalization of marijuana.

Do you belive there is enough coverage of the criminalization of poverty and mental health illness and perhaps the connection to bail reform?

the media shows few crimes in a city of millions

i live in the Marcy Houses and i witness how the abandonment of services due to COVID-19 has contributed to the rise in youth violence. me lost most of our seniors and the youth don't know how to deal with the grief

I'm so sorry Jamilla.

i work with alternative to prison programs bail reform has help a lot of females stay connected with their children

i was highly offended when Mayor Adams mentioned BLM when asked about high crime rates and the media stayed silent on that comment

can i get a link that will explain the Bail Reform correctly?

here's a good thread on how the Siena poll was worded: https://twitter.com/felicityrose/status/1497261743868821505

Re: Data- and please don't lose sight of the 1,200 Justice Courts in upstate counties that have no capacity to track meaningful data, and OCA has no authority over Justice Courts to require it. That is a gaping hole in any data collection.

So true - I'm a judge and I have a 20 page, single spaced chart on my bench of what is and is not bail eligible.

The change in public opinion was a direct result of the media reporting

https://datacollaborativeforjustice.org/work/court-process/new-yorks-bail-statute-pretrial-options/

So the only tension is that the media manufactured this hysteria because even though there was/is no data to support bail reform affecting crime rates, all journalist printed stories as if it was the case

See DCJ's latest release - a tool to clarify what is and is not bail eligible incorporating the most recent reforms.

WOW...Really Andrew....OCA has no authority over justice courts ???

https://datacollaborativeforjustice.org/work/court-process/new-yorks-bail-statute-pretrial-options/

Justice Courts send in Criminal Disposition reports, so OCA should be able to analyze that data.

in 44yrs old. ive been voting since i was 18 yrs old. who are they polling? i have never received information for a poll. most people in my community have not either. i don't trust polls. who are the people participating in polls because its not the communities discussed

any attempt to correct was not part of the titles but instead were buried paragraphs deep in reporting

+++1 Marie

would be good to hear journalists admit that

OCA has limited authority; I am answerable to a supervising judge.

The Center for Court Innovation put out a report in Feb 2021 saying "There are no rigorousevaluations of bail reforms in any jurisdiction suggestingthat they compromised public safety.: https://www.courtinnovation.org/sites/default/files/media/documents/2021-02/Handout_Bail_Reform_Crime_02032021.pdf

Justice Court dispositional reports are generally outcome based. Likely would not include the bail data now required by the revised statute, i.e. DA bail requests and Judicial decisions on bail.

https://www.thecity.nyc/2022/2/21/22944871/new-york-bail-reform-controversy-eric-adams

Piece by Josefa Velasquez ^

Has "defund the police" rhetoric contributed to public opposition--even to sensible bail reform--on any changes that could be portrayed as "soft on crime"?

True. As a part time court with part time staff we can't do that and keep up with our other work.

had to go with a client to Riker's Island to pick up property my goodness it was horrible. i could not imagine what its like for the inmates who live there but i was concerned with Staff who have to work in such conditions.

why is nobody being honest. crime went up when police stop doing their job. When Defund The Police was being yelled police was upset. i watch them refused to do their jobs when they saw fights and unlawful behavior. they would say out their mouths you don't need us don't call. the media didn't address it. nobody talked about it. George Floyd was a big case and most police felt abandoned by everyone.

I have to leave now.......Great presentation / webinar.......Great info.....Thank you all....Have a good day everyone......Tony

Is there any way to also focus in the journalism that these are "accused" people? Just because you are arrested doesn't mean guilty.

keep me posted for future events JJay....

Great job information is good thanks

Imposters will come to this Zoom to see how supporters of bail reform think. hate to say it but they will use this to misinform people

in nyc, a number of organizations (some public defense, bail funds, etc) had "court watch" programs to record arraignment data before these were required to be collected

We are missing the link of Mental Health resources for those who do come out of being incarcerated. It's all about Restorative Justice….

yes Edwin

they documented pretty stunning disparities in outcomes between those released and not (taking plea deals, acquittal, etc)

thank you Ashley

Looking into the Root cause of the individual actions is key to prevent future outcomes "...Trauma Informed Education for communities are essential …….Most of the individuals in low income communities are dealing with Chronic and Intrusive trauma ..However Bail Reform is definitely moving in the right direction ...We just need to continue to set up parallel resources to see real change..

I think it's important to start with how flimsy it is to make assumptions about who is or is not "rehabilitated" based on an arrest or even multiple arrests. Arrests speak so much more to where police focus their attention and which communities (and individuals) they target than they do to any objective measure of safety or community conduct.

There is a large body of evidence that stiffening criminal penalties in general do not provide any consistent deterrent effects (Mears & Cochran, 2018; Nagin, Cullen, & Jonson, 2009). Even further, more recent evidence in the form of a review of over 100 studies suggests that custodial sanctions (e.g., putting someone in jail rather than keeping them in the community) provides no benefits in terms of crime control (Petrich et al., 2021).

Yes Holly

Such a rich and important discussion. Thank you all for giving your time and perspective

this has opened my eyes more. I've gotten so much in this hour than anywhere else. Ashley is right most of our communities don't even experience violence yet we are treated like their is a serious problem because of victimless crimes due to addiction or mental health.

Rena yes, I believe communities are being bullied by the police and causing more Trauma to families and la comunidad

thank you everyone. this was great

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/04/nyregion/nypd-gun-violence-prevention.html

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Great conversation